Squaring Ethereum’s “World Computer” Vision

July 20, 2025

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Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today, Christopher Goes, early Ethereum contributor and IBC protocol creator, joins us to talk about why Ethereum failed as a world computer, the organizational chaos at Cosmos (including a CEO who declared himself Jesus), privacy solutions like Narmada, intent-based systems, and how crypto shifted from idealistic public goods to pure attention-driven capitalism.

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**Notes:**

• Cosmos Hub generates zero revenue still

• Bitcoin was $1 when Goes started mining

• Anoma synthesizes Ethereum, Cosmos, Zcash

• Wyvern protocol was OpenSea’s backup

• IBC connects all Cosmos chains today

• Signal adoption shows privacy step functions

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